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1. The risks are minimal at reasonable doses. Over 100,000 people took DNP for weight loss in the 1930's and there have only been a dozen or so deaths reported, almost always from overdose.

2. DNP is significantly better at burning fat than any other product in existance. A low dose of 200mg/day, with hardly any side effects, will increase metabolic rate on average some 30-33%. That's huge. DNP is a pure thermogenic.

3. T3 supplementation is notorious for muscle loss. DNP was shown in all the original studies to be nitrogen (protein) sparing, resulting in only loss of fat mass. This was contrasted to thyroid.

4. There's no need to run AAS with DNP to prevent muscle loss, since DNP burns primarily fat. DNP is not muscle wasting. By ramping up AMPK, it probably inhibits protein degredation.

5. The more DNP you take, the hotter and sweatier you'll get. This means that you don't have to be hot and sweaty on it if you keep your dosage low.

6. It's smart to stay hydrated, but you don't need to down X gallons of water per day. Just drink water liberally.

7. DNP reduces the production of free radicals in the mitochondria, meaning that there is less oxidative stress while you're taking it and less need for antioxidants. I'd just take a small daily dose of the regulars: C, E, ALA.

8. No offense to anyone, but those who say DNP is a poison and to not use it for that reason does not understand why it's called a poison. DNP uncouples oxidative phosphorylation, making energy production less efficient. This means it is a metabolic "poison." Too much will result in excessive heat production and insufficient energy production, but at low doses, DNP is actually protective. It reduces oxidative stress which shields vulnerable cells from damage. This is why lately there are more and more studies like this. An absolute poison would not be protective at lower concentrations.

9. There are much more dangerous substances that you can take to lose fat. Take for example usnic acid, which is quite liver toxic. DNP is not toxic to any organs at normal doses.

10. Comparing psychoactive drugs like Adderall and crystal meth to DNP is like comparing apples to oranges. DNP does not work hormonally. It does not work centrally. It's method of action is by acting as it's own protonophone, not by stimualting the body to do anything. If given a choice, I'd take the low-dose DNP. It's safer.

11. Traz's "medical info" on DNP sounds like some embellished MSDS. If you want to learn about it's toxicity, search for and read the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry's (ATSDR's) extensive 262 page Toxicological Profile for dinitrophenols. Or go look at the research in humans by Cutting and Tainer, or Simkins. DNP has not been shown to be liver toxic, kidney toxic, cardio toxic, or cause birth defects. In fact, research in growing animals shows that low doses actually improve developement. To say it is "just so toxic" shows a gross misunderstanding of it.

12. As said before, you will not cut significant amounts of muscle... not unless you're taking thyroid along with it (which will) or are running such a high dose (or are so lean) that fat can't be mobilized fast enough to meet energy demands (a reason to take clen with it). Again, the research is very clear that DNP is antiproteolytic. You should not expect to lose significant amounts of muscle on it.

13. I would argue that those who feel like "death" while taking it and who are experiencing "sleep deprivation" are taking too much. It never ceases to amaze me that people choose the degree of side effects they experience by the dose they take, and then talk about how bad the drug is. Does it ever occur to people that maybe they should lower the dose, make the sides completely tolerable, yet keep getting the benefits of the drug? This seems like something that only happens with DNP for some reason. You don't see people running 2g/wk of test saying "man, all the water retention, acne, and balding were just terrible... I'm never running test again." No, if someone said that, you'd hear "Don't take so much! Lower dose. Take half that and you'll still get great results with far fewer sides". Just do the same thing with DNP.

14. DNP is not "horrbile". DNP is not particualrly dangerous if used intelligently.

15. 200mg/day is definitely enough to "work." There's no arbitrary bodyweight where a dose becomes not enough. Research shows that 200mg/day of the powder (or more of the cystal, since it's not as strong) will result in an average increase in metabolic rate of 30-33%. That's significant, even if you don't "feel" it making you want to die Most larger guys will do well at 400mg/day, but it's something that's very individual, meaning that 400mg/day may be too much for some people, despite their weight. There's a lot of variation in personal response and you should start low and increase the dose slowly and carefully.

16. DNP is not a steroid. It is not hormonal. There is no "recovery" after you go off (except for maybe the common adaptations to dieting that are found with any long term diet). There will be sides though. A good point was made that you must realize there are sides with any drug.

17. Some may feel that the negatives outweigh the positives on DNP. I agree that this is true at high doses. But I don't think it's true at lower doses (200-400mg/day). If used at these doses by a comptetent person, DNP is quite safe, profoundly effective, cheaper than a stack of the best alternative fat burners, and even protective against oxdidative stress.

18. I wouldn't use T3 for fat loss unless you're taking AAS. Supplemental thyroid certainly is muscle wasting.

do research none of the bodybuilder stuff he took really killed him, if its was genetic it was most likely just unlucky and more of the harder drugs he took probably had more of an effect.