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Devs are lying to everyone about bans
ATTENTION WarZ Developers!
You have a LOT to answer for!
Lets start this off with a bang. I have hacked this game from day 1 and continue to aimbot, dupe, or otherwise completely screw with the system. I picked up ALL the "hacker trap" items I could get my hands on daring the devs to ban me. I aimbotted hundreds of players with shotguns across the map, teleported inside buildings, used fast disconnect programs, and a lot more.
Furthermore, I AM NOT BANNED!
You mean to tell me that despite your latest "big ban wave" you still haven't gotten legitimate hackers like myself? No, of course you don't. In your infinite retarded wisdom, you decided to ban people at COMPLETE random and claim it was all in just cause, even if it was for an exploit. Let me remind you fucking idiots of something else:
THIS IS AN ALPHA/BETA OF A PRODUCT!
By definition of this not being a full release, players are ALWAYS ALLOWED to exploit glitches, bugs, or otherwise to their own advantage and report it because the entire POINT of the game being available is to TEST THE FUCKING GAME! If any of you think this is the full release of the game or stupidly believe the developers are doing something to better the community, you thought wrong. Let me put it into perspective for all of you unbanned players. I was on US #11 hopping to grab loot and Kewk happened to be on the same server so I decided I would try and hunt him down. About five minutes after searching for him by using incredible speed hacks, someone else managed to kill him legitimately and Kewk banned him on the spot without any reason given whatsoever. Thats right, Kewk, your lovely community leader and developer, banned someone because he was so immensely butthurt about being killed by some random legit player and losing all his dev spawned gear he actually banned the player that owned him. Think you are better than everyone else now don't you Kewk. How do you know that player didn't play the fuck out of the game?
I don't care if I am banned on the forums, there is nothing but lies and deceit from these scumbag devs. It is a well known fact the forums are pruned by pubescent, retarded, faggot, dog felching, twat waffle moderators that are so intent on swallowing the cum of the developers tiny cocks they have to make them look as rage free and positive as they possibly can. You guys can continue to circle jerk all you want, but I can tell you that you are all in an assload of trouble.
Guess what assholes, this is illegal! WOOO!
This was obviously a scam to exploit the whole uproar about DayZ being awesome and people enjoying it, though WarZ is obviously a terrible attempt at copying it. The biggest problem the developers have run into is being completely unfair to their customers. Let me tell you devs, if you had taken a second to stop counting your stacks of cash, attempted to care about making this game, and put some sort of effort into making sure you are paying attention to the true community, not the one the moderators make by deleting threads or posts about the shit that's blatantly wrong with your game, then you might not have this problem. However, because of the utter unfair actions of your company, moderators, developers, or anyone else that is at some sort of decision, development, or moderation can be sued into the ground. That is right, you guys are committing ILLEGAL ACTIONS AGAINST THE CONSUMER! Lets take a look at what you can be legally fucked with:
1) Selling the rights to an obvious test product and remove the rights of a tester based on finding a problem/defect with the product.
2) Denying refunds on the grounds of breaking the rules of the test when the development team was in the wrong to deny a tester the right to test based upon bias.
3) Falsifying test records to cover up a mistake and promoting those falsified records as official and unpurged.
4) Breaking your own Terms of Service by allowing non-development members to access development accounts.
Those are the obvious major things that you CAN be legally liable for, and I know of several class action lawsuits that will be knocking on your door, developers, for this constant stream of bullshit.
Now lets visit a topic of great discussion, your non-existant anticheat.
I have no idea if you use some sort of ancient medieval times anticheat system or don't have one installed, but I can tell everyone here that whenever a game NORMALLY updates, hacks won't work until updated to work for the latest version. With WarZ, it is much different. I can load up my hack after any patch and still have it work 100%. It is also proven to be undetectable because you idiots haven't banned me or many other users that hack. When I say many, I mean that in most hack forums, there are maybe 5-6 people out of the thousands that use it that were banned. What does this prove? You did not detect hacks, you randomly banned people. Weapon distances were reduced so people couldn't shoot someone in the face with a Saiga from 500 meters away, but that was to try and stop hackers, not provide any sort of "balancing" or whatever bullshit you are spewing. Here are the new damage tables for everyone!
Pistols, SMGs, Crossbow - Will damage once target is closer than 69-70 meters
Assault Rifles, LMGs - Will damage once a target is closer than 149-150 meters
Sniper Rifles - Infinite distance
What will this fix? Nothing, except people enjoyment of being able to legitimately shoot someone with an M16 + Combat Scoper from 400+ Meters away. There is no longer a point for weapon attachments if you play legit aside from a foregrip.
Now it is time for me to address the bullshit that moderators, devs, or fanboys spill out whenever they see "I got banned and I didn't hack!"
Originally Posted by Skycaller
Moderators are only closing the posts we are required to, we are not representatives of hammerpoint - we only moderate the forums.
If you were wrongfully banned, appeal here: support.thewarz com
You wont receive any help from the forums other then your posts being closed - we are not the correct avenue to ask for unbans/refunds.
Skycaller, you may be correct that you only moderate the forums, but you moderate with specific guidelines given to you BY Hammerpoint, who by the way is an illegitimate company and has yet to have an actual website, therefore you ARE a representative of Hammerpoint as a volunteer. If a person is wrongfully banned, they can definitely post there, however they won't receive an answer for 3-4 weeks on average and more than likely will receive some broken english message about the ban is final with no appeals. The forums are a place to express the thoughts of the community to the developers and have other members provide feedback, hate, flame, or otherwise so the developers can see what the general consensus is on their game, the state of it, and if people are happy, having too many issues, or whatever.
Sergey, you pinko fuck, you have a lot to answer for. Lets pick you apart piece by piece so people understand how much of a piece of shit you are.
Lets start with your bullshit thread about this ban wave found here: forums.thewarz com/showthread.php?76572-Hackers-and-Cheaters-bans
"First of all - overall we're 99.9% sure that we're banning right people. Means - if you're hacking and you've been promised "100% undetectable" hack by whoever sold it to you - if you get ban - please save yourself time and don't send us support emails "I haven't done anything, I didn't used hack"."
Bullshit. You have no anticheat and you can't detect these hacks. Your logs have been falsified, false positives are all over the place because of the DDOS on the servers fuckin with the data streams, and the people coding these hacks are so far ahead of your broken understanding of what it means to make a game they might as well be Bill Gates and you are the retarded Downs kid that is trying to say "I want a cookie please" when it really sounds like "I raaand a coky fphleaz".
Because we ban based on two simple criteries :
There should be one criteria, OUR ANTICHEAT DETECTED IT!
"1) System detected use of ESP or wallhack, recorded what users been doing, this recording been checked by real human person and they banned account. This part is 100% fail proof - ie there can't be any false positives here."
So you mean to tell me you have a program recording every players gameplay without their consent and have hundreds of petabytes of data storage as well as a human army to check every single one simultaneously? Bullshit, you are banning at random and claiming, "Chekov saw it! He had too much potato vodka, puked on the screen, made a smiley face and his temple hit the ban button! It was legit!" Also, leave the english to your staff that can actually speak/type it.
"2) system analyzed player's actions over period of time - normally few days, and it assigned numerical score to various anomalities, and if score was above certain threshold, it trigger human check step. Real human checked all data, observed this player actions in a game and once again - banned account if he was hacking. This is almost 100% fail proof system, but I can give it like 0.5% or so to provide false positives."
GUESS WHAT KIDS! YOU CAN'T PLAY WARZ FOR MORE THAN 3 HOURS BEFORE YOU GET FLAGGED FOR A BAN! What the fuck is this all about? Some people, like me, have no lives and sit in front of a computer playing games til we pass out on our keyboards/controllers. You mean to tell me you ban people just because they play a lot? There are a TON of people that actually INVEST their time into this game because they enjoy it somehow. Unjust bans here can also lead to a lawsuit for wasting human hours, and if you don't believe me, there is a court case where a WoW player took Blizzard to court for an unjust ban on his level 80 character, obviously with maxed out everything gear, and got a large settlement because the court viewed the time spent aquiring items, leveling, and what not as valuable human time. You are welcome random forum viewer, if you were unjustly banned with lots of playtime, start making a wishlist of new stuff you want to fill your living space with!
ONWARDS TO YOUR NEXT FUCKUP! In fact, this is your BIGGEST fuckup EVER in regards to bans. Thread found here: forums.thewarz com/showthread.php?57081-Updates-anti-cheat-engine-It-s-a-Ban-time-!
Hey guys and girls !
So today we've updated our anticheat engine - okay "updated" is a wrong word - we've been updating it non stop for a last few weeks, today we just turn on ban engine
Over last few weeks we've been gathering information about cheats and hacks being used and being perfecting our detection system. Goal was to make system with potentially zero false positives. today we've decided we're at state when we can turn this system on and ban all those who're abusing game.
Look, it takes no time at all to find a hack for ANY game. If you want Call of Duty hacks, type in google "call of duty hacks" and you will find a ton of sites offering them both paid and free. They always list the features they offer and price, if they are a good hack. Furthermore, you cannot create a system with ZERO false positives, there will always be a decent amount if you plan on making your own garbage anticheat engine or, wait a minute, PunkBuster has been out for YEARS and they are a rather good and well known anticheat system. Hmm.....NOPE!
So let me go over all hack/cheat types and tell you how we address them :
1) ESP/ wallhacks.
While those being less game ruining than others, they're hardest to detect. Creators ( okay - one of the creators, others didn't even bothered to think what they're doing ) of those cheats are pretty clever guys, so it was a challnge to create system that detects them. We've started wuith system that gave us 95% false positive results, and at the end we come up with soluton that gives us only 15% of false positive results. Yet it still to high to allow system to decide who deserves ban - so we're feeding iformation from the system to real human operators, who will analyze data and logs and will decide if person deserve ban.
Ladies and gentlemen I give you even more bullshit! Wallhacks are virtually undetectable because they simply change around pixels with the same amount of data as the one it replaced. You also claim these are sent to human operators, yet your team seems to consist of a very small team and not enough people to check on bans or flags. Obvious flags are obvious and should always be banned, but we will get to that in a moment.
2) Stats modification
Stupid, stupid hacks. Number one only few not exactly important stats are calculated on client, so by hacking those you won't get much of the advantage. More important - our system right now have 0% false positive on those types of cheats. Means - try to use it - you'll get automated BAN.
Hooray! You have pointed out the most pointless of hacks to use in this game! WOOO! Therefore no one makes one!
3) Ghost mode, engine exploits, getting inside geometry, etc.
Once again - we're detecting those hacks, and automatically ban users. Yet - each ban case is alos sent to operators for review.
Acutally, the correct terminology is "clipping". Your english is pretty fucked up so I am gonna take a gander at what you were attempting to type. You are basically telling us that every case of suspected hacking, which is impossibly large, is given to a human operator (see above human army comment) and they give out the verdict? Bullshit. You random ban and lazily try and catch people with clipped items only to have legit players grab them and wrongfully ban them. Good job, bravo, keep up the retarded train wreck that is your game.
How we ban ?
First time we've detected you're cheating in a game, we'll give you 24-72 hours ban. After that time you'll be able to play game. Second time you'll try to use hacks - you'll be banned permanently. No refunds. BTW technically at least in USA this is also criminal offense - but clearly we won't be going after each person who's hacking unless they'll be persistent
BIGGEST THING TO NOTICE HERE! "First time we've detected you're cheating in a game, we'll give you 24-72 hours ban."
When was this taken away or modified? Probably never and therefore ALL bans should be IMMEDIATELY reversed to temporary bans should you wish to retain your company and wealth you have gathered with your lies. Sergey the Liar everyone, all for you to enjoy! Also, you are COMPLETELY wrong about hacking a VIDEO GAME being illegal in the United States, good job on THAT little retarded logic you thought would shape people up. Besides, this is an Alpha of a game so chill out.
My biggest problem with all this is that spending time on hacks are delaying release of the game features we've promised. For example clans/friends have been delayed for more than a week. YET, we firmly believe that hackers issue must be addressed first.
Uhh, thats why you have a specific DEPARTMENT to deal with this. Despite the lack of anticheat, even after this was made, you had the fucking balls to lie to everyone about needing to delay something as simple as clans/friends for a fucking WEEK when you could have simply just said,"Screw it, install PunkBuster."? You just HAD to try and get the attention of hacker haters with the prose about making antihack a priority above everything else, including apparently, fair and balanced gameplay and staff conduct.
Here is the bottom line ladies and gentlemen, nothing these guys do is out of any sort of consideration. It is perfectly obvious at how lacking in judgement these people are, so I suggest that you either ask for a refund or continue playing the game til you get banned for nothing. I know that I am definitely going with a large number of other users in a mass class action lawsuit to wipe Hammepoint off the map, so with that, I would suggest you read all the above thoroughly because while most of it is amusing, it has a vast amount of truth and reveals obvious lies the developers wish you all to blindly believe.
Moderators, have fun banning me, I will return.
